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Home My WebLink AboutPermit Correspondence 2007-5-7 . . Sycan B (54/) 746-8444 ' Fax (54/) 746-2590 840 Beltline Road, Suite 202" Springfield, OR 97477 sycan May 7, 2007 Mr. Dave Puent, Community Services Manager Department of Development Services City of Springfield 225 Fifth Street Springfield, OR 97477 RE: Holiday 1nn/912 Kruse,WaylPermit No. COM2006-0l505 * Dear Dave, Sycan requested the vacation of an S-inch public sewer line as part of the above referenced project. Our site review application showed our private sewer serving the building connecting to the unvacated portion of the public sewer line. In conversations with Ken Vogeney preparatory to submitting the application for vacation, it was recommended that we vacate the public sanitary sewer all the way to the west property line. The public sanitary sewer is an S-inch line at a .005 slope designed by Scott Goebel and was fully designed and installed per City of Springfield standards. We did not change the connection point of our private sanitary line. Steve Graham, in the course of permit review, had made comment that this existing S-inch line did not meet plumbing code and would need to be abandoned and a different line placed. Dave, this is a classic example of a technical requirement not making any logical sense with the conditions on the ground. First, the sanitary sewer was sufficient for the public system, The flows from the hotel are actually greater than the projected flows ,from the commercial lots the public sewer was designed to serve, so scouring of the pipe should not be a concern. Second, if required to replace the sanitary sewer on our property, we would still be connecting at the property line to a public sewer with the exact same characteristics as the line we couldn't connect to on our property. I have enclosed letters from both Scott Goebel the civil engineer and from Mark Robison, the MPE engineer, stating their confidence that the sewer is completely capable of handling our connection. I have also enclosed an owner's statement accepting maintenance responsibility for the line. I spoke to Mr. Graham about this matter. He maintains, as is his job, the need for the line to strictly conform to the plumbing code. I . . am appealing to you to use the discretion as Building Official to recognize the logical of allowing the design as submitted, Please feel free to call me or any of my consultants to discuss this matter. Regards, Cc: Scott Goebel Mark Robison Ron Miller Steve Graham Ken Vogeney MAY-6-2007 20:00 FROM:ROBISON ENGINEERING 2063643363 TO: 15417462590 P:1/1 . . Robison En~ineering, Inc. 2030019 Avenue NE Shoreline, WA 98155 (206) 364-3343 I fax (206) 364-3363 May 7, 2007 Sycan B ATTN: Timothy D, Hovel, Vice President Real Estate Development 840 Bellline Road, Suite 202 Springfield, OR 97477 Tel: (541) 746-8444 Fax: (541) 746-2590 PROJECT: Holiday Inn Springfield, Oregon Dear Tim: The purpose of this letter is to confiOTl that we are confident that the existing sewer main serving the subject property will function satisfactorily for the hotel project as designed. We understand that the sewer was designed and installed per code to meet the requirements of a public sewer. The only change from that condition is that the sewer line has become private property. Since there is no change in the function of the sewer line, but rather only a change in ownership definition, it is our recommendation that the City approve the use of the existing line based on the "grandfather" clause covering existing installations which were code compliant at the time of installation. If you have questions, please call. Sincerely, ROBISON ENGINEERING, INC. ~'ua~.r Mark D, Robison, P.E. President ~REGONfj) 0/40&C. 31. 'l.r::,~:~ RI( Q RO~\S ., . . . Goebel Engineering & Surveying, Inc. Engineering Surveying Planning 310 Garfield Street Eugene. Oregon 97402 Phone: (541) 687-0542 Fax: (541) 687-0739 E-mail: ooebeUiilooebeleno,com K!:'.A..:EIVED MAY 0 3 Z007 1 May 2007 BY: Mr. Steve Graham Plumbing Inspector City of Springfield 225 Fifth Street Springfield, OR 97477 Re: Sycan Commercial Park, 1'( Addition City Project P30177 GES Project # 00124-2005-C Dear Mr. Graham: The existing 8" sanitary sewer pipe located on the subject property was originally installed as a public sewer pipe. The sewer system (including pipes and manholes) was designed, installed, inspected and approved as part of City Project P-30177. That public improvement project extended the existing sanitary system in Kruse Way and within the northerly portion oftax lot 6600 (Map #17-03-22-2) easterly to serve the area within Sycan Commercial Park, 1" Addition Subdivision, which is being developed as the proposed Holiday Inn. The slope on the public sewer system and the new private system is all at 0.0050 ft/fl. A portion of the public sanitary system, as constructed in City Project P-30177 , was abandoned! vacated through City Vacation Application #LRP2006-00016. The switch from public sanitary to private sanitary was performed as requested by city engineer, Ken Vogeney. M:\Cllents\S . Z\Sycan " Ne......yate\o0124 . Holiday InnlCity.Graharn Waste~'Ulter 1tr05-2007.wpd . . \ . 1 May 2007 Mr. Steve Graham Plumbing Inspector City of Springfield Re: Sycan Commercial Park, 1" Addition City Project P30177 GES Project # 00124-2005-C Page 2 The new private sewer system east of tax lot 6600 will function as originally designed with respect to flow. The new private system is serving the same area as the original publicly designed system. The 8" pipe and manhole system would have remained a public system, maintained by the City, if the City Engineer had not requested a change in status. The 8" sewer pipe can be accessed and maintained via the existing manholes, so maintenance of the existing sewer pipe should not be a problem for either a public crew or a private maintenance crew. The accompanying letter from the owner acknowledges the need for maintenance of the new private sewer system. Respectfully, '<;~r{./~~ Scott J.ls6ebel, P.E., P.L.S. SJG/pg/ms Enclosures cc: Dave Puent Ken V ogeney Ron Miller, Mega Pacific Tim Hovet, Sycan B Corp. Mike Nelson, Robinson Engineering M:\Chents\S. Z\Syc;an" Newgate\Q0124 - Hollday Inn\City-Graharn WaSlewater ltrOS-2007.wpd . . Gopura, LLC 840 Beltline Road, Suite 202 Springfield, OR 97477 1 May 2007 Mr. Steve Graham Plumbing Inspector City of Springfield 225 Fifth Street Springfield, OR 97477 Re: Sycan Commercial Park, 1" Addition City Project P30177 GES Project # 00124-2005-C Dear Mr. Graham: I represent the owner of property on Kruse Way, Springfield, Oregon (Assessors Map 17-03-22- 2, Tax Lot #6800). I am aware that the sanitary sewer system is flat and that the service pipe that serves my property is at a slope that has been designed by an Oregon licensed engineer, but less than the minimum prescriptive plumbing code specification, which may result in more frequent maintenance. Respectfully, Gopura, LLC By: Sycan B Corp. ACKNOWLEDGMENT STATE OF OREGON } COUNTY OF LANE S5 a.b BE IT REMEMBERED that on this ~ day of May, 2007, before me, the undersigned, 8,JJptary public in and for said County and State, perso~allyappeared the within i othy D. Hovet, as V"C!.L.-\'~~ l\.- "'5. t.l ~ %. ~ p. f\l4N\a-1 (\(2 -,J , whose identity was ~ov~ to me on the ba of sa sfacto evidence and who executed the within instrument and acknowledged to me that he/she executed the same freely and voluntarily. IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto set my hand and affixed my official seal the day and year last above written. ---~---------------~I 'fe OFFICIAL SEAL I . Notary Public,for Oregon i, WHITNEY T LANDES I . i NOTARY PUBLIC - OREGON I ... . I '. ..' COMMISSION NO. 388695 I My Commission Expires. ~-" ,~:::'~~~I::~J:~~~S;:..e,-::\~~:tp!_Gmham Prop Own< It-05-2007 wpd